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Re: Java EE 9?

Arjan Tijms
 

Hi Linda,

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Arjan Tijms <arjan.tijms@...> wrote:
I wonder if there aren't any direct plans to file an update for some Java EE constituent JSRs soon whether some of them might be eligible for a transfer to interested community members and/or foundations? I'm thinking along the lines of MVC which was transferred to Ivar.

Just a friendly ping since it has been almost a week. Would really like to hear your thoughts on the above.

Thanks!

Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms



 

That way for some of the JSRs that are perhaps less important to Oracle planning can already start and the overal burden of Oracle having to work on so many JSRs could possibly be reduced.

Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms




On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Linda DeMichiel <linda.demichiel@...> wrote:

Right now our focus has been entirely on completing Java EE 8 and
our deliverables for Java SE 9, and we hope to deliver them later this
summer.  Needless to say, the migration off of java.net has made our
target deadlines quite challenging.  I expect we will have more to
say about our overall Java strategy and plans at JavaOne following
Java EE 8 and Java SE 9 delivery.

-Linda


On 5/25/17, 4:26 PM, Arjan Tijms wrote:
Hi,

During last JavaOne I somewhat got the impression (but may have
interpreted it wrongly), that the work for Java EE 9 would more or less
start in parallel with finalising Java EE 8.

Since Java EE 8 is now being being finalised, I wonder what the Java EE
9 plans are at this moment. If it's indeed to be released in about a
year after the Java EE 8 release, then shouldn't some JSRs start pretty
soon now?

Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms



Java EE tutorial sources

Guillermo González de Agüero
 

Hi,

The new Java EE site states the tutorial sources have been archived [1]. Github really simplifies contributions over the old java.net site, and I the tutorial is a very valuable piece of the Java EE ecosystem. It may well benefit from community contributions.

Could its sources please be made available again?

I've cc'ed the EE spec mailing list to get some more visibility.


Regards,
Re: Java EE 9?

Arjan Tijms
 

Hi,

Thanks for the update Linda.

I wonder if there aren't any direct plans to file an update for some Java EE constituent JSRs soon whether some of them might be eligible for a transfer to interested community members and/or foundations? I'm thinking along the lines of MVC which was transferred to Ivar.

That way for some of the JSRs that are perhaps less important to Oracle planning can already start and the overal burden of Oracle having to work on so many JSRs could possibly be reduced.

Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms




On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Linda DeMichiel <linda.demichiel@...> wrote:

Right now our focus has been entirely on completing Java EE 8 and
our deliverables for Java SE 9, and we hope to deliver them later this
summer.  Needless to say, the migration off of java.net has made our
target deadlines quite challenging.  I expect we will have more to
say about our overall Java strategy and plans at JavaOne following
Java EE 8 and Java SE 9 delivery.

-Linda


On 5/25/17, 4:26 PM, Arjan Tijms wrote:
Hi,

During last JavaOne I somewhat got the impression (but may have
interpreted it wrongly), that the work for Java EE 9 would more or less
start in parallel with finalising Java EE 8.

Since Java EE 8 is now being being finalised, I wonder what the Java EE
9 plans are at this moment. If it's indeed to be released in about a
year after the Java EE 8 release, then shouldn't some JSRs start pretty
soon now?

Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms


Re: Java EE 9?

Linda DeMichiel
 

Right now our focus has been entirely on completing Java EE 8 and
our deliverables for Java SE 9, and we hope to deliver them later this
summer. Needless to say, the migration off of java.net has made our
target deadlines quite challenging. I expect we will have more to
say about our overall Java strategy and plans at JavaOne following
Java EE 8 and Java SE 9 delivery.

-Linda

On 5/25/17, 4:26 PM, Arjan Tijms wrote:
Hi,

During last JavaOne I somewhat got the impression (but may have
interpreted it wrongly), that the work for Java EE 9 would more or less
start in parallel with finalising Java EE 8.

Since Java EE 8 is now being being finalised, I wonder what the Java EE
9 plans are at this moment. If it's indeed to be released in about a
year after the Java EE 8 release, then shouldn't some JSRs start pretty
soon now?

Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms
Re: Welcome to the new JSR 366 mailing list

Linda DeMichiel
 

On 5/25/17, 1:36 PM, Linda DeMichiel wrote:
Welcome to the new JSR 366 mailing list!

This list replaces the Java EE Expert Group mailing lists that were
previously hosted on java.net. This is now a single mailing list which
includes both experts and users.

Our transition from java.net has thus far gone remarkably smoothly,
and is expected to result in only a very minimal delay from our
previously announced completion target of July.

All but one of our Java EE 8 component JSRs are now at the Public
Review stage or later, and all but one of our targeted MRs have been
posted for review or completed. Among the most recent accomplishments
are the Final Releases of JSON-P 1.1 and CDI 2.0, and the submission
of JPA and JavaMail for Maintenance Review. The Java EE Security API
spec will appear shortly for Public Review and the Interceptors spec
for Maintenance Review. The Java EE 8 Platform and the Bean Validation
specs will begin their Public Review Ballot phase next week.
A quick update....

The Java EE Security API spec has now been posted for Public Review
as well, and the Interceptors spec for Maintenance Review.


regards,

-Linda
Java EE 9?

Arjan Tijms
 

Hi,

During last JavaOne I somewhat got the impression (but may have interpreted it wrongly), that the work for Java EE 9 would more or less start in parallel with finalising Java EE 8. 

Since Java EE 8 is now being being finalised, I wonder what the Java EE 9 plans are at this moment. If it's indeed to be released in about a year after the Java EE 8 release, then shouldn't some JSRs start pretty soon now?

Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms
Re: Java EE 8 PR review

Linda DeMichiel
 

Hi Kevin,

On 5/25/17, 1:31 PM, Kevin Sutter wrote:
Hi Linda and Bill,
Trying out this new javaee.groups.io mailing list...  I don't see any existing messages yet, so it's been pretty quiet...

I just finished reviewing the PR drafts for the Platform and Web Profile Java EE 8 specifications.  Looks good.  Not a lot of changes since the EDR2, mainly clean up.

A couple of items though...

o  You still have references to Java Batch 1.1 MR in the TOC, Table EE.6-1, and Section EE.6.18.  I know we talked about an MR for Java Batch, but that never became real.  So, these references should be reverted to Java Batch 1.0.  (BTW, section EE.9.7 is okay.  You missed that one.)

Thanks for catching this.   I'll correct this in the next draft.
o  I'm still not thrilled with the new dependency on JASPIC for Security 1.0 and, in turn, the Web Profile.  I know we already talked about this in the mailing lists and my concern was overruled by the majority, so I'll live with it.  But, it still seems kind of backward to require this archaic spec in the Web Profile.  (I'll brace myself for the hate mail on that remark.  Smile.)

Other than that, it looks good.

thanks!

-Linda


Thanks!
Kevin
_._,_._,_
Java EE 8 PR review

Kevin Sutter
 

Hi Linda and Bill,
Trying out this new javaee.groups.io mailing list...  I don't see any existing messages yet, so it's been pretty quiet...

I just finished reviewing the PR drafts for the Platform and Web Profile Java EE 8 specifications.  Looks good.  Not a lot of changes since the EDR2, mainly clean up.

A couple of items though...

o  You still have references to Java Batch 1.1 MR in the TOC, Table EE.6-1, and Section EE.6.18.  I know we talked about an MR for Java Batch, but that never became real.  So, these references should be reverted to Java Batch 1.0.  (BTW, section EE.9.7 is okay.  You missed that one.)

o  I'm still not thrilled with the new dependency on JASPIC for Security 1.0 and, in turn, the Web Profile.  I know we already talked about this in the mailing lists and my concern was overruled by the majority, so I'll live with it.  But, it still seems kind of backward to require this archaic spec in the Web Profile.  (I'll brace myself for the hate mail on that remark.  Smile.)

Other than that, it looks good.

Thanks!
Kevin
Welcome to the new JSR 366 mailing list

Linda DeMichiel
 

Welcome to the new JSR 366 mailing list!

This list replaces the Java EE Expert Group mailing lists that were
previously hosted on java.net. This is now a single mailing list which
includes both experts and users.

Our transition from java.net has thus far gone remarkably smoothly,
and is expected to result in only a very minimal delay from our
previously announced completion target of July.

All but one of our Java EE 8 component JSRs are now at the Public
Review stage or later, and all but one of our targeted MRs have been
posted for review or completed. Among the most recent accomplishments
are the Final Releases of JSON-P 1.1 and CDI 2.0, and the submission
of JPA and JavaMail for Maintenance Review. The Java EE Security API
spec will appear shortly for Public Review and the Interceptors spec
for Maintenance Review. The Java EE 8 Platform and the Bean Validation
specs will begin their Public Review Ballot phase next week.

regards,

-Linda
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